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As President Obama and the White House enter the final stretch to pass comprehensive health care reform, they are going into over drive to get the true facts out to the American people amid the confusion, misinformation, falsehoods, and smoke screens currently being spread by the Republicans.
Although politicians, conservatives, and talk show hosts have somewhat backed away from throwing “death panel” rhetoric around, there is still plenty of misleading statements being spread by the GOP.
In response the White House has launched a week long campaign to “get the word out” to every day Americans, who want to know the truth about health care reform, what it means to them and their families, and how it will impact their future.
Americans are tired of partisan politics.
Here is a fact sheet from the first phase of the White House health care reform information campaign:
UNDER THE PRESIDENT'S PLAN FOR REFORM:
• If you have health insurance through your employer and you like your plan, you can keep it
• If you're a small business owner, you'll receive new tax credits that make it easier for you to provide coverage for employees if you choose to do so
• If you have Medicare, the President's plan guarantees that your benefits will not be cut, and the Medicare Trust Fund will be extended for more than 9 years
• If you're uninsured, you could receive a tax credit to help pay for coverage if needed — part of the largest middle class tax cut for health care in history
• Even if you currently have health insurance, there will be new protections from insurance company abuses, and tax credits will make coverage more affordable
THE PRESIDENT'S PLAN GUARANTEES THAT:
• You will never be denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions
• You will never again be hit with arbitrary health insurance premium hikes
IF WE DO NOT PASS HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM:
*Up to 17 million more people will be uninsured by 2019 than today.
*The average family's health care costs will nearly double by 2020, from $13,000 to $24,000 — meaning they'll be paying a quarter of their income toward health care costs.
*Insurers can continue the massive and arbitrary premium rate increases we've heard about recently — such as Anthem Blue Cross raising rates for customers in California by nearly 40%, and rates in Illinois going up by as much as 60%.
*As many as 275,000 people could die prematurely over the next 10 years because they don't have health insurance.
*Health care costs will take up a staggering amount of our national budget. In 1960, it was 5 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), last year it was 17 percent. Costs will reach 21 percent of our economy by 2020 if we fail to act.
*Rapidly rising costs will make it harder for employers — particularly small businesses — to provide quality health insurance to employees, leading many to drop coverage or shift to plans that cover less.
*Even those who have insurance today will be less secure, and more likely to lose coverage if they switch jobs or lose their job due to rising costs on the individual market or being denied coverage due to a pre-existing condition.
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Posted By Dragonfly6878 Dragonfly6878 | about 11 hours ago
I am really liking the new direction President Obama is taking on the health care debate. He spent too much time trying to get the Republicans on board and giving them every chance to be grown-ups in getting this monstrocity called "healt care reform" done once and for all.
In the current economy, people need this more than ever. I say shame on the self-serving GOP and all their talking head puppets for doing every thing possible to rail road something Americans desperately need.
Thanks for helping to get the real facts out.
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As the President has made clear, Americans deserve a final up-or-down vote on health reform. And the House is now expected to hold its final vote as soon as one week from today.
As we speak, insurance-industry lobbyists are gathering at the D.C. Ritz-Carlton to stage a last-minute blitz to block reform -- even as they jack up premiums by as much as 60% for small businesses and families across the country.
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As the President has made clear, Americans deserve a final up-or-down vote on health reform. And the House is now expected to hold its final vote as soon as one week from today.
As we speak, insurance-industry lobbyists are gathering at the D.C. Ritz-Carlton to stage a last-minute blitz to block reform -- even as they jack up premiums by as much as 60% for small businesses and families across the country.
So starting today, we're launching an unprecedented week-long campaign sprint -- our "Final March for Reform." Each day until the vote, we'll feature a powerful new way for OFA supporters to speak out in our communities and weigh in directly with Congress.
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But our opponents will stop at nothing to distort the President's proposal and derail our progress. It may all come down to what we do together this week.
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A final vote on health reform...Wed, March 3, 2010 2:17:40 PMFrom:President Barack Obama ...View ContactTo:arnold schwertman Obama for America arnold --
Last Thursday's first-of-its-kind summit capped off a debate that has lasted nearly a year. Every idea has now been put on the table. Every argument has been made. Both parties agree that the status quo is unacceptable and gets more dire each day. Today, I want to state as clearly and forcefully as I know how: Now is the time to make a decision about the future of health care in America.
The final proposal I've put forward draws on the best ideas from all sides, including several put forward by Republicans at last week's summit. It will put Americans in charge of their own health care, ensuring that neither government nor insurance company bureaucrats can ration, deny, or put out of financial reach the care our families need and deserve.
I strongly believe that Congress now owes the American people a final vote on health care reform. Reform has already passed the House with bipartisan support and the Senate with a super-majority of sixty votes. Now it deserves the same kind of up-or-down vote that has been routinely used and has passed such landmark measures as welfare reform and both Bush tax cuts.
Earlier today, I asked leaders in both houses of Congress to finish their work and schedule a vote in the next few weeks. From now until then, I will do everything in my power to make the case for reform. And now, I'm asking you, the members of the Organizing for America community, to raise your voice and do the same.
The final march for reform has begun, and your participation is crucial. Please commit to join with me to take reform across the finish line.
Essentially, my proposal would change three things about the current health care system:
First, it would protect all Americans from the worst practices of insurance companies. Never again will the mother with breast cancer have her coverage revoked, see her premiums arbitrarily raised, or be forced to live in fear that a pre-existing condition will bar her from future coverage.
Second, my proposal would give individuals and small businesses the same choice of private health insurance that members of Congress get for themselves. And my proposal says that if you still can't afford the insurance in this new marketplace, we will offer you tax credits based on your income -- tax credits that add up to the largest middle class tax cut for health care in history.
Finally, my proposal would bring down the cost of health care for everyone -- families, businesses, and the federal government -- and bring down our deficit by as much as $1 trillion over the next two decades. These savings mean businesses small and large will finally be freed up to create jobs and increase wages. With costs currently skyrocketing, reform is vital to remaining economically strong in the years and decades to come.
In the few crucial weeks ahead, you can help make sure this proposal becomes law. Please sign up to join the Organizing for America campaign in the final march for reform:
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When I talked about change on the campaign, this is what I was talking about: coming together to solve a huge problem that has been troubling America for 100 years and standing up to the special interests to deliver a brighter, smarter future for generations to come.
I look forward to signing this historic reform into law. And when I do, it will be because your organizing played an essential role in making change possible.
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A final vote on health reform...Wed, March 3, 2010 2:17:40 PMFrom:President Barack Obama ...View ContactTo:arnold schwertman Obama for America arnold --
Last Thursday's first-of-its-kind summit capped off a debate that has lasted nearly a year. Every idea has now been put on the table. Every argument has been made. Both parties agree that the status quo is unacceptable and gets more dire each day. Today, I want to state as clearly and forcefully as I know how: Now is the time to make a decision about the future of health care in America.
The final proposal I've put forward draws on the best ideas from all sides, including several put forward by Republicans at last week's summit. It will put Americans in charge of their own health care, ensuring that neither government nor insurance company bureaucrats can ration, deny, or put out of financial reach the care our families need and deserve.
I strongly believe that Congress now owes the American people a final vote on health care reform. Reform has already passed the House with bipartisan support and the Senate with a super-majority of sixty votes. Now it deserves the same kind of up-or-down vote that has been routinely used and has passed such landmark measures as welfare reform and both Bush tax cuts.
Earlier today, I asked leaders in both houses of Congress to finish their work and schedule a vote in the next few weeks. From now until then, I will do everything in my power to make the case for reform. And now, I'm asking you, the members of the Organizing for America community, to raise your voice and do the same.
The final march for reform has begun, and your participation is crucial. Please commit to join with me to take reform across the finish line.
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Finally, my proposal would bring down the cost of health care for everyone -- families, businesses, and the federal government -- and bring down our deficit by as much as $1 trillion over the next two decades. These savings mean businesses small and large will finally be freed up to create jobs and increase wages. With costs currently skyrocketing, reform is vital to remaining economically strong in the years and decades to come.
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When I talked about change on the campaign, this is what I was talking about: coming together to solve a huge problem that has been troubling America for 100 years and standing up to the special interests to deliver a brighter, smarter future for generations to come.
I look forward to signing this historic reform into law. And when I do, it will be because your organizing played an essential role in making change possible.
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A final vote on health reform...Wed, March 3, 2010 2:17:40 PMFrom:President Barack Obama ...View ContactTo:arnold schwertman Obama for America arnold --
Last Thursday's first-of-its-kind summit capped off a debate that has lasted nearly a year. Every idea has now been put on the table. Every argument has been made. Both parties agree that the status quo is unacceptable and gets more dire each day. Today, I want to state as clearly and forcefully as I know how: Now is the time to make a decision about the future of health care in America.
The final proposal I've put forward draws on the best ideas from all sides, including several put forward by Republicans at last week's summit. It will put Americans in charge of their own health care, ensuring that neither government nor insurance company bureaucrats can ration, deny, or put out of financial reach the care our families need and deserve.
I strongly believe that Congress now owes the American people a final vote on health care reform. Reform has already passed the House with bipartisan support and the Senate with a super-majority of sixty votes. Now it deserves the same kind of up-or-down vote that has been routinely used and has passed such landmark measures as welfare reform and both Bush tax cuts.
Earlier today, I asked leaders in both houses of Congress to finish their work and schedule a vote in the next few weeks. From now until then, I will do everything in my power to make the case for reform. And now, I'm asking you, the members of the Organizing for America community, to raise your voice and do the same.
The final march for reform has begun, and your participation is crucial. Please commit to join with me to take reform across the finish line.
Essentially, my proposal would change three things about the current health care system:
First, it would protect all Americans from the worst practices of insurance companies. Never again will the mother with breast cancer have her coverage revoked, see her premiums arbitrarily raised, or be forced to live in fear that a pre-existing condition will bar her from future coverage.
Second, my proposal would give individuals and small businesses the same choice of private health insurance that members of Congress get for themselves. And my proposal says that if you still can't afford the insurance in this new marketplace, we will offer you tax credits based on your income -- tax credits that add up to the largest middle class tax cut for health care in history.
Finally, my proposal would bring down the cost of health care for everyone -- families, businesses, and the federal government -- and bring down our deficit by as much as $1 trillion over the next two decades. These savings mean businesses small and large will finally be freed up to create jobs and increase wages. With costs currently skyrocketing, reform is vital to remaining economically strong in the years and decades to come.
In the few crucial weeks ahead, you can help make sure this proposal becomes law. Please sign up to join the Organizing for America campaign in the final march for reform:
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When I talked about change on the campaign, this is what I was talking about: coming together to solve a huge problem that has been troubling America for 100 years and standing up to the special interests to deliver a brighter, smarter future for generations to come.
I look forward to signing this historic reform into law. And when I do, it will be because your organizing played an essential role in making change possible.
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Is there a way to convince people that your health care bill is really in there best interest; i know Mr President you love your country. as much as you love your wife and children and i feel the same way even thought my children are grown up and live lives of there own now. Some how we haven't doone a very good job selling health care reform to the people showing them that this bill won't bankrupt us and it isn't a socialist scam to over throw the princles of the country we need to win the hearts and minds of the people that we are trying to help; or this health care bill will be your Waterloo Mr President . show them that the republican plans have no substance behind them or teeth to enforce there suggestion on Insurance companies or employers who dump health care because it hurt there bottom line; and the insurance companies that raise there rates so they can put a herd of lobbist up on capital hill to make sure that the statis queo is protected. kinda like trying to enact financial reform they won't go for it because there lobbist put momey into there reelections campains so they won't cut there own thoats by enacting reform. it against there best interest . Some people do drink ans some do smoke ciggeretts cigars or chew tabaco; the best way to combat this is to teach our children at a very early age how smoking and drinking can hurt you.and add on to that every year in school; and maybe kid will chooce not to smoke or dink as adults we can't force them not to drink or smoke as long as it is leagle to do so all we can hope to do EDUCATE THEM and hope for the best.beyhond that.but you can't single out a group of people like they wanta do it not fair; it kinda like saying being a republican is risky because there head is only used as a hat rack and nothing else. get the point .
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Is there a way to convince people that your health care bill is really in there best interest; i know Mr President you love your country. as much as you love your wife and children and i feel the same way even thought my children are grown up and live lives of there own now. Some how we haven't doone a very good job selling health care reform to the people showing them that this bill won't bankrupt us and it isn't a socialist scam to over throw the princles of the country we need to win the hearts and minds of the people that we are trying to help; or this health care bill will be your Waterloo Mr President . show them that the republican plans have no substance behind them or teeth to enforce there suggestion on Insurance companies or employers who dump health care because it hurt there bottom line; and the insurance companies that raise there rates so they can put a herd of lobbist up on capital hill to make sure that the statis queo is protected. kinda like trying to enact financial reform they won't go for it because there lobbist put momey into there reelections campains so they won't cut there own thoats by enacting reform. it against there best interest . Some people do drink ans some do smoke ciggeretts cigars or chew tabaco; the best way to combat this is to teach our children at a very early age how smoking and drinking can hurt you.and add on to that every year in school; and maybe kid will chooce not to smoke or dink as adults we can't force them not to drink or smoke as long as it is leagle to do so all we can hope to do EDUCATE THEM and hope for the best.beyhond that.but you can't single out a group of people like they wanta do it not fair; it kinda like saying being a republican is risky because there head is only used as a hat rack and nothing else. get the point .
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Is there a way to convince people that your health care bill is really in there best interest; i know Mr President you love your country. as much as you love your wife and children and i feel the same way even thought my children are grown up and live lives of there own now. Some how we haven't doone a very good job selling health care reform to the people showing them that this bill won't bankrupt us and it isn't a socialist scam to over throw the princles of the country we need to win the hearts and minds of the people that we are trying to help; or this health care bill will be your Waterloo Mr President . show them that the republican plans have no substance behind them or teeth to enforce there suggestion on Insurance companies or employers who dump health care because it hurt there bottom line; and the insurance companies that raise there rates so they can put a herd of lobbist up on capital hill to make sure that the statis queo is protected. kinda like trying to enact financial reform they won't go for it because there lobbist put momey into there reelections campains so they won't cut there own thoats by enacting reform. it against there best interest . Some people do drink ans some do smoke ciggeretts cigars or chew tabaco; the best way to combat this is to teach our children at a very early age how smoking and drinking can hurt you.and add on to that every year in school; and maybe kid will chooce not to smoke or dink as adults we can't force them not to drink or smoke as long as it is leagle to do so all we can hope to do EDUCATE THEM and hope for the best.beyhond that.but you can't single out a group of people like they wanta do it not fair; it kinda like saying being a republican is risky because there head is only used as a hat rack and nothing else. get the point .
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I wish I understood conservatives better.
I wish I understood why Sen. Jim BunningSen. Jim Bunning, R-Wildcats, has spent several days blocking the extension of unemployment benefits and a little less time than that whining that having to do this made him miss a basketball game he wanted to see.
It's easy to see Bunning is sort of screwed. He barely won re-election last time out and he's pretty much being forced into retirement because the Republican Party sees him as sort of an embarrassment.
But how do you vote again giving people who have nothing a little bit of help in the short run? It isn't as if they were following the teachings of Jesus, who told a rich young man to sell everything he had and give the money to the poor.
I know Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Asshat, said that when you give people unemployment benefits, it makes it less likely they'll look for a job, but I'm reminded of what Harry Hopkins said in the early days of the New Deal when a conservative senator made an argument like that.
The senator said people would be better off in the long run without help.
Hopkins replied that people don't eat in the long run. They eat every day.
I suppose the question I would ask people opposed to programs like this is a simple one:
What do you expect to happen to the people you don't help?
I know some conservatives are Social Darwinists, and to them the "thinning of the herd" is one of the things that makes our country stronger. But what do you tell a 5-year-old kid who's hungry and has no place to sleep?
Sorry, kid, you should have picked better parents?
Do you just tell the kid he's screwed? Or do you tell him to sell apples or matches on a street corner while reading Horatio AlgerHoratio Alger books at night?
This is what's so disgusting about it all. A total waste of skin like Paris HiltonParis Hilton can live a life style only the pharaohs used to live just because her grandfather struck it rich, while millions of children who never even knew they had grandparents are starving.
You can whine all you want about Socialism, but if you look at the root word all it means is that the community matters, that we help each other because every time we see a homeless person, we should thank God it isn't us.
Any of us can say all we want about how we made it through our own efforts, but most of us were incredibly lucky. First, we were born American and most of us were born into families where we had food, clothes and shelter.
We had the chance to go to schools where we were allowed to learn, and those of us who were white had nothing working against us when we applied for our first jobs.
Sure, we worked hard.
But why is it fair that a kid born black, poor or homeless should have to work five times as hard to accomplish the same thing?
I know life isn't fair, but that doesn't mean we should just accept that and write off millions of people.
So tell me, conservatives ... What would you do about the children?
Just throw them away?
At least Newt GingrichNewt Gingrich suggested orphanages, although I'm sure the fundie crowd wouldn't want government breaking up families.
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Posted By pollard pollard | about 12 hours ago
Mike your so hell bent on socialism, why don't you get up off your big butt and do something for them instead of whining and complaining all the time. Your quote from the bible is wrong, it say's for him to sell all his possesions and follow me.
The poor were here when Jesus was and they will be here when this planet burns with fervent heat.(Theres your global warming). Take your butt to one of these socialist countries and go out beyond the Hilton and Sandals and see the peace loving Communities as you say, they are starving and homeless.
I just got back from Haiti and Jamaica on humantarian missions and its not a pretty sight, I go every January. I work food banks in North Georgia two weekends each month and there is no comparing the poor there to our poor. Before you go running your mouth on something you know very little about maybe you should go to some of the utter most parts and take a look around. If you are doing next to nothing to help these folks, then maybe you should stick to your political BS.
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Reply By CaliforniaMike Michael Rappaport | about 12 hours ago
Glad to hear it, Pollard, but I'm not even talking about Haiti. I actually think we ought to help our own children too.
But definitely, good for you. You are not part of the problem.
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Posted By Write4Life Maryann Scarangello | about 12 hours ago
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed091109b.cfm
Pollard - how do the poor in the countries you visit (or let's say some you do not - like China, South Korea, Vietnam) stack up to the poor in the United States?
They don't.
What would I do for the kids? Everything I could afford to do. EVERY THING. EVERY LAST THING. BUT...I'm NOT giving it to the government to do it.....after they piss most of it away first.
Don't ever discount the charity that Americans inherently have in their souls. This country took care of their own long before welfare became first fiddle.
POOR JENNIFER ANISTON.
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Reply By CaliforniaMike Michael Rappaport | about 10 hours ago
Amen. Poor Jen. All I can say is, that girl in the picture is either a wolverine in bed or extremely rich.
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Reply By Write4Life Maryann Scarangello | 29 minutes ago
Or a dentist? :)
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Posted By ahol888 Adrian Holman | about 9 hours ago
That picture is ridiculous. At least she could have brushed her teeth on her wedding day. Stop misquoting Bible verses; you're morphing into Sean Hannity. Senators Kyl and Bunning are representatives of the states of Arizona and Kentucky respectively. No punchline needed after that sentence.
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Posted By faulk28 faulk28 | about 2 hours ago
as for socialism if you want that you are out of your mind...socialists prefer very large and powerful governments (China, the old Soviet Union, Cuba, and France to some extent). Capitalists prefer small & limited governments (United States, Australia).though with Bush and Obama's help we are headed in that direction...remember any gov't that is powerfu7l enough to give you what you need is also powerful enough to take it all away!!!! we need to get back to a small gov't like our founders(remember them?)intended for us to have...i also have a question for Michael...in defense of voting against unemployment extensions, i think someone once wrote an article saying to pay down debt we all need to share the pain...do you believe in that or were you just blowing smoke? At some point we need to stop with the federal programs don't we? We have to pay down the debt or we're all in trouble
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Posted By pollard pollard | about 1 hour ago
Maryann, in other countries the poor have no access to the programs our poor have, It's not the idea of them accepting the fact they are poor as much as they have never had the chance for anything else, take Jamaica, this country is so poor once you step outide the borders of the tourist destinations and head up into the mountains, there is no hotwater, no plumbing as we know it, most of the food they eat we throw out as scrapes. The average home size is around 200sq ft(most of our garages we park our cars in are 250sq ft. I could go on and on about their living conditions, I want even mention the rats, ants and roaches.
What amazes me is the number of children being raised by the grand mothers, because the mothers take off after having kids and there never was a father. These children are made to go to school at an early age, mostly run by the church. They welcome us more than our own poor.
When I work the food banks here, one in the city, the other in the foothills of the Appalachian mtns I see a difference in the attitude of the poor. It has nothing to do with skin color, but a mentality of I'm poor and deserve this VS Thank you for caring enough to take the time. I have no answer on how to stop this, to be honest, I don't think anyone has, you can take all the money in the world and redistribute it and there would still be poor and needy people.
When I hear educated people with knowledge or money, who pretend to have answers and all they want to do is throw money to the local government to help the downtrodden it's nothing but a joke. You can watch on TV how Brad/Angelina or Maddonna go to these countries and save an orphan, how they pick and choose which child to take, but look how they step over hundreds of kids, they paid the government of these countries to be able to remove a child. Why not call them modern day slave masters. If their desire were genuine, they would go it alone without all the cameras and media. I do not follow Opra, but a least she builds schools and hospitals.
Mike you said you wern't talking about Haiti,yet It was you who quoted scripture about Jesus, he told us to go out to all the world. There are enough workers for the fields here, if they would get up off their rears and tend to their little corner of the pasture.
As a matter of fact we have our own little Haiti here in the USA, go up into Kentucky or West Virgina. I mention these two states out of experience, you can find them in any state but these states just flat out ignore them. In Haiti, they have warm weather year round, in the two states I listed above, they have to deal with hot weather and freezing temps.
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Life isn't fair
I wish I understood conservatives better.
I wish I understood why Sen. Jim BunningSen. Jim Bunning, R-Wildcats, has spent several days blocking the extension of unemployment benefits and a little less time than that whining that having to do this made him miss a basketball game he wanted to see.
It's easy to see Bunning is sort of screwed. He barely won re-election last time out and he's pretty much being forced into retirement because the Republican Party sees him as sort of an embarrassment.
But how do you vote again giving people who have nothing a little bit of help in the short run? It isn't as if they were following the teachings of Jesus, who told a rich young man to sell everything he had and give the money to the poor.
I know Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Asshat, said that when you give people unemployment benefits, it makes it less likely they'll look for a job, but I'm reminded of what Harry Hopkins said in the early days of the New Deal when a conservative senator made an argument like that.
The senator said people would be better off in the long run without help.
Hopkins replied that people don't eat in the long run. They eat every day.
I suppose the question I would ask people opposed to programs like this is a simple one:
What do you expect to happen to the people you don't help?
I know some conservatives are Social Darwinists, and to them the "thinning of the herd" is one of the things that makes our country stronger. But what do you tell a 5-year-old kid who's hungry and has no place to sleep?
Sorry, kid, you should have picked better parents?
Do you just tell the kid he's screwed? Or do you tell him to sell apples or matches on a street corner while reading Horatio AlgerHoratio Alger books at night?
This is what's so disgusting about it all. A total waste of skin like Paris HiltonParis Hilton can live a life style only the pharaohs used to live just because her grandfather struck it rich, while millions of children who never even knew they had grandparents are starving.
You can whine all you want about Socialism, but if you look at the root word all it means is that the community matters, that we help each other because every time we see a homeless person, we should thank God it isn't us.
Any of us can say all we want about how we made it through our own efforts, but most of us were incredibly lucky. First, we were born American and most of us were born into families where we had food, clothes and shelter.
We had the chance to go to schools where we were allowed to learn, and those of us who were white had nothing working against us when we applied for our first jobs.
Sure, we worked hard.
But why is it fair that a kid born black, poor or homeless should have to work five times as hard to accomplish the same thing?
I know life isn't fair, but that doesn't mean we should just accept that and write off millions of people.
So tell me, conservatives ... What would you do about the children?
Just throw them away?
At least Newt GingrichNewt Gingrich suggested orphanages, although I'm sure the fundie crowd wouldn't want government breaking up families.
I'm waiting.
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Posted By pollard pollard | about 12 hours ago
Mike your so hell bent on socialism, why don't you get up off your big butt and do something for them instead of whining and complaining all the time. Your quote from the bible is wrong, it say's for him to sell all his possesions and follow me.
The poor were here when Jesus was and they will be here when this planet burns with fervent heat.(Theres your global warming). Take your butt to one of these socialist countries and go out beyond the Hilton and Sandals and see the peace loving Communities as you say, they are starving and homeless.
I just got back from Haiti and Jamaica on humantarian missions and its not a pretty sight, I go every January. I work food banks in North Georgia two weekends each month and there is no comparing the poor there to our poor. Before you go running your mouth on something you know very little about maybe you should go to some of the utter most parts and take a look around. If you are doing next to nothing to help these folks, then maybe you should stick to your political BS.
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Reply By CaliforniaMike Michael Rappaport | about 12 hours ago
Glad to hear it, Pollard, but I'm not even talking about Haiti. I actually think we ought to help our own children too.
But definitely, good for you. You are not part of the problem.
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Posted By Write4Life Maryann Scarangello | about 12 hours ago
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed091109b.cfm
Pollard - how do the poor in the countries you visit (or let's say some you do not - like China, South Korea, Vietnam) stack up to the poor in the United States?
They don't.
What would I do for the kids? Everything I could afford to do. EVERY THING. EVERY LAST THING. BUT...I'm NOT giving it to the government to do it.....after they piss most of it away first.
Don't ever discount the charity that Americans inherently have in their souls. This country took care of their own long before welfare became first fiddle.
POOR JENNIFER ANISTON.
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Reply By CaliforniaMike Michael Rappaport | about 10 hours ago
Amen. Poor Jen. All I can say is, that girl in the picture is either a wolverine in bed or extremely rich.
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Reply By Write4Life Maryann Scarangello | 29 minutes ago
Or a dentist? :)
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Posted By ahol888 Adrian Holman | about 9 hours ago
That picture is ridiculous. At least she could have brushed her teeth on her wedding day. Stop misquoting Bible verses; you're morphing into Sean Hannity. Senators Kyl and Bunning are representatives of the states of Arizona and Kentucky respectively. No punchline needed after that sentence.
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Posted By faulk28 faulk28 | about 2 hours ago
as for socialism if you want that you are out of your mind...socialists prefer very large and powerful governments (China, the old Soviet Union, Cuba, and France to some extent). Capitalists prefer small & limited governments (United States, Australia).though with Bush and Obama's help we are headed in that direction...remember any gov't that is powerfu7l enough to give you what you need is also powerful enough to take it all away!!!! we need to get back to a small gov't like our founders(remember them?)intended for us to have...i also have a question for Michael...in defense of voting against unemployment extensions, i think someone once wrote an article saying to pay down debt we all need to share the pain...do you believe in that or were you just blowing smoke? At some point we need to stop with the federal programs don't we? We have to pay down the debt or we're all in trouble
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Posted By pollard pollard | about 1 hour ago
Maryann, in other countries the poor have no access to the programs our poor have, It's not the idea of them accepting the fact they are poor as much as they have never had the chance for anything else, take Jamaica, this country is so poor once you step outide the borders of the tourist destinations and head up into the mountains, there is no hotwater, no plumbing as we know it, most of the food they eat we throw out as scrapes. The average home size is around 200sq ft(most of our garages we park our cars in are 250sq ft. I could go on and on about their living conditions, I want even mention the rats, ants and roaches.
What amazes me is the number of children being raised by the grand mothers, because the mothers take off after having kids and there never was a father. These children are made to go to school at an early age, mostly run by the church. They welcome us more than our own poor.
When I work the food banks here, one in the city, the other in the foothills of the Appalachian mtns I see a difference in the attitude of the poor. It has nothing to do with skin color, but a mentality of I'm poor and deserve this VS Thank you for caring enough to take the time. I have no answer on how to stop this, to be honest, I don't think anyone has, you can take all the money in the world and redistribute it and there would still be poor and needy people.
When I hear educated people with knowledge or money, who pretend to have answers and all they want to do is throw money to the local government to help the downtrodden it's nothing but a joke. You can watch on TV how Brad/Angelina or Maddonna go to these countries and save an orphan, how they pick and choose which child to take, but look how they step over hundreds of kids, they paid the government of these countries to be able to remove a child. Why not call them modern day slave masters. If their desire were genuine, they would go it alone without all the cameras and media. I do not follow Opra, but a least she builds schools and hospitals.
Mike you said you wern't talking about Haiti,yet It was you who quoted scripture about Jesus, he told us to go out to all the world. There are enough workers for the fields here, if they would get up off their rears and tend to their little corner of the pasture.
As a matter of fact we have our own little Haiti here in the USA, go up into Kentucky or West Virgina. I mention these two states out of experience, you can find them in any state but these states just flat out ignore them. In Haiti, they have warm weather year round, in the two states I listed above, they have to deal with hot weather and freezing temps.
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